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Luminesce: Yeah, personal growth is my favorite tulpamancy practice (edited)
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 7/7/2023 9:22 AM
That's fair. Not what we meant, but not a bad option.
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The Flying Potato 7/8/2023 3:46 PM
Can tulpas talking not sound like mindvoice and more like thoughts put into words? Because to me mindvoice is enunciating everything while thoughts is almost more like reading a word
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 3:49 PM
if you can think it, it can be used as communication. So, anything can be used to communicate. Raw thought, emotions, words, pictures, memes, facial expressions, and more
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Luminesce: Yeah, not sure exactly what you're referring to, but tulpa-host communication can occur in pure-thought ("tulpish") just as well as in words. (edited)
3:51 PM
Though it's generally a good goal to aim for communicating in clear words and sentences.
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/8/2023 3:52 PM
using a variety of methods can help to get certain ideas across, but yeah
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Luminesce: Sorry, didn't mean exclusively, I meant aim to be able to talk in clear sentences (edited)
3:52 PM
A mix of preference by system would be normal
3:53 PM
Though I do think talking in full, clear sentences is the most fulfilling experience in most cases
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The Flying Potato 7/8/2023 3:55 PM
I've been getting emotions from him and body language since he was formed but I've only recently been getting word-like stuff
3:55 PM
It just hasn't been mindvoice
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Luminesce: Naturally, tulpamancy doesn't tend to start out already being the final goal experience (edited)
3:56 PM
Just keep working towards what you want to achieve
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The Flying Potato 7/8/2023 3:56 PM
I figured I just wanted to double check if that makes sense, I tend to be a kinda naturally doubtful person heh
3:57 PM
I'm glad you're all here to help
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Luminesce: Well, the entire subject is subjective, and you should aim to create and have the exact experience you want to have (edited)
3:57 PM
A lot of veterans just have experiences they think others would like too, so that's where guidance/advice comes in
3:58 PM
But, there's not really strict rules or a path to follow
3:58 PM
Best to be primarily guided by trying to achieve the experience you want to have
3:59 PM
Some systems don't mind communicating in just-thought, instant and clear, while I think most people would prefer actual conversations with sentences and all as a more fulfilling experience.
3:59 PM
But just go for what sounds best for you, since you're creating the experience for yourself after all
4:00 PM
(If your tulpa(s) have input later on that's fine too of course)
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:23 PM
what does it mean if sometimes (pretty rarely but can be induced) i feel like i am her, but im pretty much 100% sure shes not cofronting or switching? is it just my own sense of self being weird? i have a bracelet with her name on it that i wear as a reminder and sometimes it makes me feel a bit weird about myself
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:25 PM
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Luminesce: Tulpamancy always teaches control and self-discipline for mental health's sake, so while you could say lots of things, the answer you should take here is "It's just in your head/random thoughts" (edited)
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/9/2023 5:25 PM
brain does a weird sometimes.
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Luminesce: If you can't control that when otherwise trying to, then it becomes a disorderly symptom, yes. (edited)
5:26 PM
Very often you can purposely steer away from such things rather than leaning into them to make them go away entirely though.
5:26 PM
(But if not, then it's therapist time)
5:27 PM
But, you know, try and just exert more control first before going to that lol.
5:27 PM
Switching itself often is accompanied by reaffirmations of who's fronting just to prevent blending and such.
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:27 PM
not sure thats it in this case lol, it feels more like an illusion than a change to my sense of self. like im accidentally 'imposing' her identity overtop of mine (not actual imposition i dont like see her body)
5:27 PM
also can you try not to mock me for having mental disorders thanks
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Luminesce: Yeah, accidental sounds about right (edited)
5:28 PM
Affirmations help
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the alt account in question
also can you try not to mock me for having mental disorders thanks
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:28 PM
i’m not mocking
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:28 PM
it might just be my brain getting confused at the concept of there being another person and assuming it must be me still
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:28 PM
i’m just pointing to potential reason
5:28 PM
it’s not always „tulpa related”
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
i’m just pointing to potential reason
Luminesce: It's better if you try and guide in tulpamancy terms before jumping straight to disorder talk. (edited)
5:29 PM
Once someone claims to be unable to control it, that's when you can bring up disorder stuff.
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:29 PM
this doesnt usually happen to me so i assumed it was specific to this situation ^_^;
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:29 PM
i mean they talk about having bpd all the time
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:29 PM
i mentioned it like TWICE
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:29 PM
so
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/9/2023 5:30 PM
my brain has also done a weird thing sometimes
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:30 PM
and i can in fact control the illusory identity thing. i can just turn it back off
5:30 PM
idk maybe its my brain doing shit maybe its her trying to do something and accidentally hitting me with a car
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:30 PM
some people ezperience switch as „host taking a mask” of other headmate „coming to front”, some people experience both of those
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:31 PM
sometimes its just blendy, it happens
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:31 PM
shes too young to switch lol
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:31 PM
i myself experienced both
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:31 PM
no such thing
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:31 PM
no such thing
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:31 PM
we switched on the third day
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:31 PM
and as i said im sure its not that anyway
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/9/2023 5:31 PM
how young?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:32 PM
you can look at it from different perspectives, one is like you become the tulpa, other perspective is that you lose yourself in the background and the tulpa remains
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:32 PM
depends on what you count as her birthplace. shes existed as a vague presence for a while now, ive only been focusing on actually developing her for around a week
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:33 PM
Some people switch im first hour of practice
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/9/2023 5:33 PM
we could switch around week two or three I don’t think there is a too young, just, you can try whenever y’all feel ready
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:34 PM
if im ever going to switch id rather do it in a way that eliminates ambiguity
5:34 PM
where i can tell exactly whos doing the thinking and acting
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:34 PM
switching isnt anything super magical, it feels like your personality blending into another one and your personality goes quiet
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:34 PM
which like. were bad at telling our own thoughts apart right now
5:34 PM
so i think i want to wait for proper independence before i start trying super hard
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:34 PM
imo it might be just your sens of self being weird as you said might be the case in the first message here, which is what i agreed with you about and you said i was mocking you
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 7/9/2023 5:34 PM
that is a logical choice.
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:35 PM
i thought you were mocking me because of the way you said it. circling something on an image feels like a sort of mockery to me
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:35 PM
no ill intentions behind it though
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:35 PM
i mean i hardly said anything…
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
switching isnt anything super magical, it feels like your personality blending into another one and your personality goes quiet
Luminesce: You (the host) should also be around as "a tulpa" after (edited)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:36 PM
yeah its much harder to think or say anything
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
no ill intentions behind it though
the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:36 PM
just explaining my thought process
5:38 PM
though i wonder if this will raise issues in the future, like potentially accidentally blending instead of switching
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:39 PM
its not hard to focus back in, you both get used to controlling it
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:39 PM
maybe as she gets more independence itll be less problematic
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:40 PM
it helps to say who you are and to think about stuff you usually think about
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:40 PM
consider that your tulpa is likely to inherit problems you experience
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:41 PM
i know that. we share a brain, chemical imbalances and all
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:41 PM
i had some mild dissociation a couple of months ago because of lots of meditation + starting out tulpa stuff and that helped a lot (edited)
5:41 PM
kinda felt out of everything
5:41 PM
the same things helped with blendiness too
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:42 PM
was it more of mindfulness/grounding meditation?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:42 PM
not really? idk
5:43 PM
i just cleared my head a lot and thought about existential stuff a lot when i wasnt clearing it
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but then i grounded more to get out of it
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i thought of the grounding as "pretending to be me" until i was grounded (edited)
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:44 PM
did you like pretending to be you
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:44 PM
its pretty useful to pretend to be you so you can actually do stuff instead of staring at a wall lookingdownsmile (edited)
5:45 PM
i mean that whole thing was around the """"ego death""" thing
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:45 PM
Nice
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:45 PM
more like vegetative state
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:45 PM
not nice
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 7/9/2023 5:46 PM
i mean it wasnt bad, no self, just consciousness
5:46 PM
thats just how i see it
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 7/9/2023 5:46 PM
nice
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the alt account in question 7/9/2023 5:50 PM
i do want to work at switching at some point but, again, i want to wait until i know shes separate and sapient and capable of interacting and thinking consistently. she seems bad at thinking right now (or at least at audibly using the thought faculties?) so i dont want to push her into front (or worse, think weve switched when we havent and end up pretending to be her)
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Luminesce: I do think it's far better to wait on switching until your tulpa is well-developed. (edited)
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